On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 8:00 PM Troy Dawson <tdawson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I would like to introduce a plan I call Square 1 [1][2] > > There are two goals to Square 1. > The first is to get, and keep, the core buildroot[3] packages, self-hosting[4]. > The second is to get the list of core buildroot packages as small as possible. Why can't this be done as part of the minimisation objective? To have yet another project with another name and another focus and set of tools just appears to be a little bizarre > What are the benefits to Square 1? > More stable release and less failed builds. > If we are able to shrink binaries, faster koji builds. > Smoother initial creation of RHEL 9.[5] > > What are the milestones to get these benefits? > - Get initial list of "core binaries" > - write/find software that will find binary/source dependencies > - write/find software that will track binary/source dependencies > - write/find/setup automation that finds and tracks binary/source > dependencies, so people can easily see what has changed over time. > - work with package maintainers to trim down binary/source dependencies > -- trimming out "extra" package languages. (ex: perl for a > minor script, when everything is in python.) > -- trimming functionality and/or moving functionality to sub-packages > or separate package. > - integrate these tests into the rawhide gating system, to alert when > new dependencies have been added. > > Much of this work overlaps with the Fedora Minimization efforts.[6] > Square 1 hopes to utilize, rather than duplicate, their efforts. And > maybe some tools created for Square 1 can help the minimization > efforts. > > Thoughts? > Ideas? > Comments? > > Troy Dawson > > [1] - Square 1 is at the heart of Ring Zero > [2] - This has nothing to do with the company or software with a > similar sounding name. > [3] - The core buildroot is the packages in @buildsys-build, and > everything needed to build those packages. > [4] - self-hosting is the ability to build all the packages on themselves. > [5] - Yep, I said it. We're already looking at RHEL 9. > [6] - https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/minimization/ > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx