On Fri, 2019-10-11 at 14:42 -0400, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > I believe the point most of us are struggling with is: there's no > definition of what advantages of modularity are. There may or may not > be some idea of what the advantages could be, which is a different > thing. This makes it really hard to argue whether it is or isn't > succeeding when there isn't a criteria for success. Well, there's various places that provide a fairly 'official' definition of what the advantages are supposed to be. E.g. the Modularity docs site has a FAQ section where this is the first question: "Exactly what problem are you trying to solve?" https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/faq/ "Deploying software has many solutions, but what gets deployed often plays out as a fight between developers and operators. Developers want the latest (or at least later) features. Operators want software in packages, certified, with a known period of support. Fedora Modularity provides multiple versions of packages in a Linux distribution with the qualities expected from a Linux distribution: transparently built and delivered, actively maintained, and easy to install — making both happy." The "Modules for Everyone" Change also had a "Benefit to Fedora" section, as it was required to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModulesForEveryone#Benefit_to_Fedora "Fedora users will have access to a wider range of software choices than they had previously. Fedora Packagers will be able to use modules and module defaults to build each stream once and have it available for any supported Fedora release they wish. They will no longer need to duplicate that work for both the modular and non-modular repositories." The 'Fedora Modularization' objective also defines a goal: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives/Fedora_Modularization_%E2%80%94_The_Release#Goal "Modularity will transform the all-in-one Fedora OS into an operating system plus a module repository, which will contain a wide selection of software easily maintained by packagers. This iteration of the Objective focuses on the second part — providing a wide selection software in various versions — while laying the groundwork for the first." I think those texts taken together give a reasonable account of what modularity is *supposed* to be doing for us, so we can at least attempt to then ask and answer the question "is it actually achieving these things"? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
