Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

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On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 12:06 AM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Matthew Miller wrote:
> > A key goal of the modularity project is to allow some of the cases to be
> > better addressed by allowing packagers to think in terms of upstream
> > changes which affect user experience separate from the Fedora release
> > cycle. The default stream for a package shouldn't be updated in disruptive
> > ways in shipped releases, but a new-version stream could _also_ be
> > available. And at the same time, if you upgrade to a new Fedora OS release
> > but still need the old behavior and the packager is still maintaining it,
> > you should be able to opt in to it.
>
> Sure, I fully understand the theoretical benefits to be had from Modularity
> (though I still think that this is much more useful for LTS distributions
> such as RHEL or CentOS than for Fedora). The issue is that it all breaks
> down when modules depend on each other (and they already do), because of the
> unavoidable versioning conflicts (Module A requires Module C version 1,
> Module B requires Module C version 2, and only one version of Module C can
> be installed) that bring us Module Hell, a.k.a., RPM Hell 2.0. And this
> follows directly from the specification of the Modularity feature. And it
> has already happened in practice (see the libgit2 chaos).

Modularity should have been opt-in until major bugs are ironed out,
and maybe we would have realized in time that either it's great or it
doesn't solve anything the problem it's addressing.

Dridi
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