> -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-devel-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-devel-list- > bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Iadonisi > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:59 PM > To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core > Subject: Re: Old kernel RPMS > > On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 13:36 -0500, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > [snip] > > > I don't see why this question is so inappropriate and irrelevant for > > this list. In fact, it seems highly relevant to me, and I think > > there should be a policy to keep backup versions of rpms in a > > centralized place. I have needed such a thing on many occasions to > > determine what was broken, or recover my system from a horrific crash, > > due to Rawhide. > > I'm afraid I have to agree with Ivan here, Jeff. This is most > definitely *highly* relevant to this list. > I've never mentioned it myself before, but I have been meaning to > bring it up. I'm sure hoping it doesn't start a flamewar or anything, > but I do think it's important to bring up. The discussion belongs here, > IMO, and not on fedora-test because it also applies to updates for > released versions. > What I'm referring to is the relatively quick disappearance of > previous updates, as well previous versions from rawhide. A concern > I've had about official updates disappearing, at least with respect to > GPL/LGPL licensed software, is that these older updates should be made > available for as long as the GPL requires (3 years?). Currently, they > disappear when new updates show up (or shortly thereafter). > I wouldn't worry about the licensing issue too much with rawhide given > that it is 'in development' stuff, but it's still a bit extreme, IMO, > for previous versions to disappear from the download.fedora.redhat.com > immediately on appearance of the next version. > I'm not naive, here: I do know that keeping two or three versions > around means significant disk space concerns, not just for Red Hat, but > for all the mirrors. Maybe a separate tree that a maximum of three > versions could be maintained and instead of the rawhide update mechanism > doing 'rm <rpm>', it could do 'mv <rpm> <backupdir>/<rpm>'. Mirrors can > choose to mirror the backup dir or not. > That's simplified of course, but I'm trying to promote some discussion > of this. It's burned me more than once. > -- well, my 02c is to get rid of the list police, the time spent on what is appropriate for the list and what is inappropriate for the list is as big a waste of bandwidth as the original thread. If a response is made to an inquiry then it is appropriate otherwise it will die as all threads eventually do. Now see, I've wasted bandwidth by making my response.