Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

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On Sunday, September 8, 2019 7:05:39 PM MST Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 7:00 AM vvs vvs <vvs009@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry, but where did you saw that I said something about i686
> > *kernel*? I think that I explicitly mentioned *x86_64* kernel with i686
> > userland and described why it could be beneficial for some users with
> > limited memory.
> 
> And a child with no vaccines isn't that much of a danger to the
> community. Until someone opens a window, or forgets to wash a glass,
> and the *other* unvaccinated children form a wonderful way to spread
> an infection.
> 
> 
> > As for security, I don't think that running your own computer in a tightly
> > controlled environment should be *that* dangerous. At least many users
> > did it for years without problems. That looks like a scare. In either
> > case it's the user who should decide what's best for him. I don't think
> > that educated grown-up people should be treated like babies.
> 
> There is "deciding what's best for him". There is also "supporting
> them inem in an unmaintainable and unsecurable environment, at the
> expense of disk space and mirror space and build time and bugzilla
> resources for a dangerously obsolete architecture.
> 
> 
> > Other distributions might drop it or not, we'll see. At least Debian is
> > not dropping it yet. But this is a moot point now. After all those
> > discussions I see that nobody really cares about user interests here. At
> > least in Debian's case they stated that their users interests is of
> > utmost priority to them in contrast to just useless technical innovation.
> > And I'm not a proponent of consumerism. So take it lightly.
> 
> The heck? If you know of others who need or want i686 architecture for
> reasons other than theoretical completeness, please encourage them to
> speak up. And offer to do some of the work.

I fail to see how a comparison of x86 to a disease is really relevant. If you 
really want to go that route, I'll tell you now that x86 is no more 
"unsecurable" than x64, both arches have security issues, and it's 
unavoidable. There are also vulnerabilities with specific implementations.

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