Re: Fedora Samba DC for what purpose it is released in Fedora ?

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On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 9:25 PM Robert Marcano <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 9/2/19 4:52 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 3:33 PM Alexander Bokovoy <abokovoy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 02 Sep 2019, Dario Lesca wrote:
> >>> Il giorno lun, 02/09/2019 alle 11.26 -0400, Robert Marcano ha scritto:
> >>>> I switched to run Samba DCs on a container with non Fedora / RHEL /
> >>>> CentOS provided RPMs.
> >>>
> >>> Thank Robert for reply.
> >>>
> >>> Then why don't release samba compiled with Heimdal kerberos?
> >>>
> >>> Just change a flag in build time, and all can use it into a production
> >>> environment.
> >> We do not support Heimdal builds in Fedora. It is not possible to reuse
> >> components of Samba built against Heimdal within other applications
> >> compiled against MIT Kerberos. This is, in particular, a show-stopper
> >> for FreeIPA and SSSD integration.
> >
> > My personal experience is that this is not true. sssd in a recent
> > Fedora (Fedora 29 last year) works just fine against an honest-to-god
> > Samba 4.9 domain controller on RHEL 7. I've not tested tested it with
> > samba 4.11rc2 yeat, as I'm still working on that port. sssd also works
> > against a real AD controller. sssd does not rely on a freeipa server.
> > It has genuinely unfortunate behavior of pre-downloading the *entire*
> > LDAP tree, and breaking if it can't complete this, but that's another
> > issue that won't be visible in most small test environments with local
> > domain controllers.
>
> The parent poster is refering to having two Kerberos implementations on
> the same process, not from two different machines. For example, an
> application linking against Samba libraries with Heimdal and at the same
> time linking with system MIT Kerberos for another features of that
> application unrelated with Samba.

Sorry to sound critical, but this is irrelevant because, to use domain
controller enabled Samba, it compiles its own internal Kerberos. There
are other system libraries which Samba shares, such as libtalloc and
libldb, but for the comain controller. As best I can tell with sssd,
it's not been a problem. I did not run FreeIPA at all after some
failed attempts, and found  with Samba compatible completely with AD
and the clients able to work, I had no use for it. So the libraries
did not overlap.

If FreeIPA were dropped from Fedora, would there remain any reason to
prefer MIT Kerberos over Heimdal Kerberos?  It's not that I object to
the MIT Kerberos, I know several of the authors personally as old
friends. But that's not a reason to prefer the software.

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