On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 7:04 PM John Harris <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Friday, August 30, 2019 5:16:25 AM MST Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > On Aug 29, 2019, at 9:41 PM, John Harris <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> On Thursday, August 29, 2019 8:12:22 AM MST Dan Book wrote: > > >> I would agree, but people do install multiple desktops after installing > > >> a > > >> spin. Such a use case needs to be considered (not sure if it matters, > > >> though). > > > > > > > > > This is definitely not the ideal scenario, especially not from the case of > > > the installer for the GNOME spin. I don't know if there's really any > > > reason to consider it, as the user is taking things into their own hands > > > at that point. > > > > Let us not try to outsmart what people *must have wanted*, and err on the > > side of not leaving their neckties hanging out the window for yanking by > > passing pranksters. Leave firewalls up by default. > > I don't think you understand what I meant. Please allow me to clarify. The > suggestion was that we should set the default in such a way that would work > regardless of what the user installs after the installation of Workstation > itself. We have no way of doing that. We cannot just guess what the user means > to install while we're in Anaconda. Unfortunately, mind reading hardware isn't > there yet. > > I would agree, leave firewalls up by default. If 30 years in DevOps and system security in both large and small networks count for anything, this makes *complete* sense. The distinction between a "Workstation" deployment and a "Server" or "Everything" deployment should not include leaving the Workstation completely vulnerable to the most casual script kiddie attacks after they install *any* services, especially including MySQL, DNS, Samba, or Tomcat, Jenkins, or anything else. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx