Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Switch RPMs to zstd compression

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On Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:17:18 PM CEST Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> > On Aug 29, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Kamil Dudka <kdudka@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:43:53 AM CEST Panu Matilainen wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 6/4/19 9:56 AM, Daniel Mach wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Dne 31. 05. 19 v 2:15 Pavel Raiskup napsal(a):
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>>> On Thursday, May 30, 2019 10:38:25 AM CEST Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Dne 29. 05. 19 v 23:52 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> If we did this, wouldn't it make it very difficult to use tools like
> >>>>>> mock on RHEL / CentOS 7 to build for Fedora 3x?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Speaking of Mock:
> >>>>> Either the RPM on host need to understand the new format/compression 
> >>>>> **or**
> >>>>> the packages in @buildsys group (including transitional deps) have to
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> be in
> >>>>> old format - then you can build for Fedora 3x using bootstrap
> >>>>> feature.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I need to underline this, it would be really really really bad if we
> >>>> were
> >>>> not able to --installroot fedora chroots at least on RHEL 8.  How
> >>>> likely
> >>>> is a backport of zstd support into RPM in EL7+?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> RHEL 8 should be quite easy - get zstd package into RHEL and recompile 
> >>> rpm with zstd support.
> >>> 
> >>> RHEL 7 is a different story. The patch doesn't apply directly and a 
> >>> backport would be needed.
> >>> 
> >>> Panu,
> >>> how difficult it would be to backport the zstd support to RHEL 7 RPM?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Technically, backporting rpmio backends is almost trivial, even to much 
> >> older rpm versions.
> >> 
> >> Getting new features into older RHEL is a much bigger problem.
> >> 
> >> 
> >>    - Panu -
> > 
> > 
> > Has there been any progress on this?
> > 
> > What is the recommended way to build Fedora 31+ RPMs on a RHEL-7
> 
> 
> With “mock”, available from EPEL.

It does not work because RHEL-7 rpm does not support zstd, so `mock --init` 
fails with a lot of unsatisfied dependencies on rpmlib(PayloadIsZstd).

Kamil

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