On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 10:31:54 PM MST Christopher wrote: > We're getting off-topic, but really quickly: Yes, you can select > advanced packaging (at least you could in the past... probably still > can). You can also use kickstart to automate installs with custom > package installations and configuration using the same Workstation > ISO, and you can also just open a new TTY (e.g. Ctrl+Alt+F3), > customize your system, and reboot without ever logging in to GNOME. I don't know how that would possibly pull in the GNOME Spin's firewall config, if you select a different set entirely, unless they're doing some odd package mangling that I'm not aware of. I'm not talking about users that do the default install, and then switch to a TTY, because that's going to be a very small number of the userbase of the Workstation product. > It's not "GNOME's firewall zone". As previously mentioned, it's not > pulled in by GNOME at all. Rather, it's being provided by the > firewalld RPM itself, and configured by default, based on the contents > of /etc/os-release (which is provided by the > fedora-release-workstation RPM). It is specific to the GNOME Spin. I don't imagine /etc/os-release would be set to that when another package set is selected, if that's even possible with the GNOME Spin's installer. Simply using the install media is not enough to put the fedora-release-workstation package into other options' package sets. > The main point is that it's not GNOME-specific at all, but it is > Workstation Edition-specific. That's what I'm referring to as the GNOME Spin, because it's not fair to call it anything else, unless you're talking about how it's able to do all kinds of nonsense, like this, that Spins can't get away with. Calling it "Workstation", when speaking of anything other than the name it's adopted and been approved with, is dishonest at best, as it's certainly not the only workstation option in Fedora, nor is it the best, which is subjective. This is an important distinction, which needs to be made at some point. -- John M. Harris, Jr. <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Splentity https://splentity.com/ _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx