Any reason why people hate it? I really can't see any downsides to this as an enhancement to the current system. I think the logic needed is something like this: The up2date system checks if a RPM of software to be updated is available locally. If not, up2date carries on as normal. If the RPM is available it checks for a suitable diff file in the archive. If found it downloads the diff, applies the patch and passes the resulting RPM for processing as normal. If there is no diff, up2date downloads the full RPM as normal. Joe. > > and don't the Zen/Red Carpet people HATE IT? > >