On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 9:16 PM John Harris <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 7:45:15 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 6:38 PM Solomon Peachy <pizza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 03:34:03AM +0300, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > > > > > > > Why wouldn't it be appropriate for a system running on battery power? > > > > > > > > > > > > I've personally had this happen to me several times, where (far more > > > improtantly than the battery) a laptop tucked into a confined sleeve got > > > inadvertantly powered on and essentially baked itself while sitting at > > > that password prompt. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, yes, powering off is a completely sensible thing to do. > > > > > > This is an interesting example. It's such a significant liability > > (home fires and airplane fires are particularly bad), I wonder if > > manufacturers have heat and lid sensors feeding back to the firmware > > to force a poweroff in such a situation. And perhaps they do and no > > one is willing to test it (for all I know it's a temperature range > > that can cause hardware damage). From the limited examples so far, > > clearly manufacturers cannot trust that the operating system will > > ensure proper behavior, for any number of reasons. Or maybe they > > design the case to "reasonably" contain the smoldering left overs of > > what was your laptop. > > There is no significant fire risk from this. It's just not good for the > laptop. There's not exactly a temperature range that can cause damage, but > there is a nominal range for each individual chip, and a nominal range for the > entire system based on that. Anything over isn't guaranteed to do damage, but > will definitely degrade performance, and anything significantly outside of > that range, in either extreme, could do permanent damage. And this nice response is a very strong argument against the current behavior, and can't be construed as supportive of it. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx