Hi everybody! After some discussions, we (the Stewardship SIG) have decided that we cannot continue to maintain gradle in fedora. - the current version packaged in fedora is outdated (4.4.1, from Dec. 2017, vs. 5.5.1 from July 2019) - it currently doesn't build itself (not even in bootstrap mode), and needs an older version tagged into rawhide as a buildroot override to even build (this doesn't work anymore, due to rawhide gating) - the current version has open CVE issues associated with it on fedora 30+ - it pulls in a lot of dependencies (and newer versions pull in even more), which we don't have the manpower to maintain (including scala, sbt, zinc) - other distros seem to have basically given up on building gradle as well, since they mostly ship the same version as fedora (except Arch, where they just package up the binaries upstream publishes) The current plan is to drop support for building packages with gradle, first by orphaning / retiring gradle, and then removing the gradle support code from javapackages-tools (which produces the gradle-local package). Since there is a very limited number of actively maintained Java packages that are built with gradle (less than 10), we expect the breakage not to be too bad. Also, there is a possibility to "port" projects that currently use gradle to be built with maven instead, which has already been done for some fedora packages (testng, junit5, aqute-bnd, etc.). This might be the way forward for packagers who don't want their packages to be broken but also don't want to / cannot maintain gradle and its dependencies either. The exact time of the retirement will depend on the fedora schedule and our available time, but it will probably happen just before the F31 branch point, to make sure there's enough time before the F31 beta freeze to fix any breakage. --- I've talked about this at flock, you can look at my slides here (the gradle issue is towards the end): https://decathorpe.fedorapeople.org/flock2019/stewardship.pdf The talks are also all being recorded, but I don't know when the videos will be available. Fabio, for the Stewardship SIG _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
