Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Limit Scriptlet Usage of core packages

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On Tue, 2019-07-02 at 10:22 +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> 
> I love the goal, but this document says very little about the means
> to achieve that goal. I would like to see specific solutions
> described for each class of scriptlets that is present, including
> approximate numbers of packages that are affected. As often, the
> devil is in the details, and there indeed are classes of scriptlets
> which have been successfully made obsolete and we now only need to
> get rid of the usage usage in spec files, but then there are other
> classes of scriptlets which might be very hard to replace.

 Yes, we've had a spreadsheet for a bit with that data (raw data
generated by[1]), I'll try to get that into html/wiki this week.
 For a significant portion of the work the plan is:

1. ldconfig => delete them as not needed
2. adduser/group/etc. => sysusers files
3. touch/mv/cp/etc. => systemd-tmpfiles

...there have been ideas for some of the exceptional cases, but if we
don't it all of them for F31 we'll still be in a better place for F32.


[1] https://github.com/james-antill/scriptlets-monitor

> Also, this certainly is not a "self contained" change. Please upgrade
> it to "system wide".

 Although we'd change multiple packages, we don't need to co-ordinate
much between packages and there won't be any big flag day like event
which is why I chose self contained.


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