On Tue, 2019-07-02 at 10:22 +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I love the goal, but this document says very little about the means > to achieve that goal. I would like to see specific solutions > described for each class of scriptlets that is present, including > approximate numbers of packages that are affected. As often, the > devil is in the details, and there indeed are classes of scriptlets > which have been successfully made obsolete and we now only need to > get rid of the usage usage in spec files, but then there are other > classes of scriptlets which might be very hard to replace. Yes, we've had a spreadsheet for a bit with that data (raw data generated by[1]), I'll try to get that into html/wiki this week. For a significant portion of the work the plan is: 1. ldconfig => delete them as not needed 2. adduser/group/etc. => sysusers files 3. touch/mv/cp/etc. => systemd-tmpfiles ...there have been ideas for some of the exceptional cases, but if we don't it all of them for F31 we'll still be in a better place for F32. [1] https://github.com/james-antill/scriptlets-monitor > Also, this certainly is not a "self contained" change. Please upgrade > it to "system wide". Although we'd change multiple packages, we don't need to co-ordinate much between packages and there won't be any big flag day like event which is why I chose self contained. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx