On Mon, 2019-07-01 at 17:03 -0400, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > == Detailed Description == > > > > Currently we know how to make an installable OS with packages that > > doesn't require the use of scriptlets, indeed rpm-ostree and others > > have already done this on a significantly bigger scale. So we plan > > to > > remove direct scriptlets from most (if not all) of the packages in > > the > > main fedora container image for Fedora 31. This means all four of: > > %pre/%post/%preun/%postun. After this change it'd be good to have > > some > > kind of temporary exception to be granted before those packages > > could > > add a scriptlet back (post F31 work). > > Do I understand correctly that triggers aren't affected here? Yes. > > Almost all of the hard work is already done, as rpm can react to > > files > > being dropped in specified places with known actions (Eg. In this > > way > > systemd components can create users or files). There are a few > > minor > > changes needed to packages to move from the old way of doing things > > (Eg. calling adduser) to doing the new thing. Note that while a > > program will still be run at installation time, those programs will > > be > > few and easily audited (as against the 666 slightly different ways > > of > > adding a user we currently have). > > Is there a document describing common things that are done with > scriptlets and the "proper", non-scriptlet way to do them? (If not, > could one be made?) I don't believe there is a single document atm. ... I could look at putting one somewhere, although it's a bit like lumping random things together because we happen to be doing them at the same time. > > == Scope == > > > > Proposal owners: > > > > * James Antill > > * 1 needs to get combine.d into the distribution, and then > > /etc/shells > > can use that. > > * 2 minor wrangling of package owners to tweak specfiles. > > Do I understand correctly that you plan to send PRs to all packages > in question? Yes. > > * Other developers: > > > > * Policies and guidelines: We should work toward only allowing new > > scriptlets to appear with policy exceptions, in any of the fixed > > packages. This needs to be done somewhat carefully, and post F31. > > Would it be possible to write the policy first, rather than trying to > get maintainers to conform to an unknown standard? The policy here is talking about after it's done, so that things don't slide back. Kind of like the "no new sysv-init scripts" came after the conversion to systemd unit files was accpeted/done. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
