On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:20 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 27. 06. 19 17:15, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 12:32 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> On 26. 06. 19 20:07, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2019-06-26 at 13:57 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > >>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_means_Python3 > >>>> > >>>> == Summary == > >>>> In package and command names, "Python" will mean "Python 3". > >>>> > >>>> Users installing and running Python or Python packages without > >>>> specifying a version will get Python 3. > >>>> > >>>> Running <code>python</code> will run <code>python3</code>. > >>> > >>> Oh, man. I thought we'd decided against this in the past? > >> > >> We did. Circumstances changed. > > > > Out of interest, what circumstances? > > Mostly date. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_means_Python3#Benefit_to_Fedora > > "The name 'Python' will not refer to software that will be unmaintained upstream > for most of Fedora 31's lifetime and retired from Fedora 32." > > Also, before, we have decided to not do this, as it was against the upstream > recommendation. That recommendation is changing now as Python 2 approaches EOL. > > See https://github.com/python/peps/pull/989 > > >>> I'm worried > >>> about the cost/benefit ratio on such a change. > >> > >> What worries you do most about "the cost"? > > > > I mean, generalized existential dread? :) > > > > The most obvious is scripts with #!/usr/bin/python . OK, we can try and > > find every single one in the distro and patch them (though I'm sure > > some will get missed somehow) > > Yes, we've already done that. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Move_usr_bin_python_into_separate_package > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Make_ambiguous_python_shebangs_error > > > but there will certainly be ones that > > *aren't part of the distro* that get bitten by this. > > There, you are correct. However, would we want "python" to mean Python 2 > forever? Or do we want to phase things out slowly and make a designated point in > the future, where this is changed? I suppose to me the big one with be pypi and what the expectation in that community is around which version of python points to /usr/bin/python, have they been running tests against the repositories there and if it'll break things installed via pip. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
