Le vendredi 31 mai 2019 à 02:15 +0200, Pavel Raiskup a écrit : > On Thursday, May 30, 2019 10:38:25 AM CEST Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 29. 05. 19 v 23:52 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > > > If we did this, wouldn't it make it very difficult to use tools > > > like > > > mock on RHEL / CentOS 7 to build for Fedora 3x? > > > > Speaking of Mock: > > Either the RPM on host need to understand the new > > format/compression **or** > > the packages in @buildsys group (including transitional deps) have > > to be in > > old format - then you can build for Fedora 3x using bootstrap > > feature. > > I need to underline this, it would be really really really bad if we > were > not able to --installroot fedora chroots at least on RHEL 8. How > likely > is a backport of zstd support into RPM in EL7+? We should not been talking about rpm backports, so much of the fedora/epel/el flow depends on rpm enhancements, new rpm versions should be pushed by default to old streams after a year/six months of proofing Fedora-side. I'm quite sure all the efforts wasted working around old rpm limitations in EL cost a lot more (including @RH) than the people that would be needed to correct problems in case something slipped through Fedora QA. It's done for Firefox and the amount of changes pushed to Firefox is crazy compared to what happens rpm side. The non-rpm distributors are running circles around Fedora and EL, and it's not because their binaries are better, their QA process more solid, their core design easier to use, it's just that they make their software deployments enhancements available timely and not after 5 years of procastination. Right now any attempt to contribute modern rpm packaging starts with a long list of “you could do X, but it’s not available yet, use Y instead”. Who actually expects to attract new contributors this way? -- Nicolas Mailhot _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx