On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 10:39 AM Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 2019-05-30 at 10:29 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Installing: > > grub2-efi-ia32 > > shim-x64 > > > > That is obviously wrong, it could never work. On x86_64 the original > > command should install 32-bit and 64-bit shim and GRUB EFI binaries. > > Well, it's sort of a problem, because both the packages provide 'grub2- > efi' and dnf's behaviour in this case is to pick one, not install both. How does netinstall handle this? I'm guessing it must be true anaconda checks sysfs for firmware bitness, and is explicitly installing only the correct shim and grub2 EFI packages for that bitness. > The only way to get both installed when you call 'dnf install grub2- > efi' would be to have some sort of dependency relationship between > them, I guess. Sounds good. But, what is the use case we're trying to solve with this wiki? The case where the user intentionally removed GRUB, perhaps in favor of some other bootloader, changed their mind, and they now want to install GRUB again? Why is it missing in the first place? I don't really care about that use case, and would demote it to the end of the wiki. And really, those users don't need install instructions. What they need is a decoder ring so they know the minimum GRUB packages by name they need to install per arch and firmware type, and maybe firmware bitness. They just need a chart. The use case I care about, are those who have had GRUB inadvertently stepped on through no (or only a little) fault of their own. This helps folks on #fedora and users@ who keep having to repeat themselves for this use case, where they could just say "here read this simple wiki". When the wiki is not concise, and instead is a giant text wall of idiosyncratic workarounds for obscure problems almost no one else is bound to have, it isn't nearly as useful. Looking at the GRUB2 wiki, I'd like to chop out 3/4ths of it. Much of it is obsolete, without even considering Fedora 30's bootloaderspec changes. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx