Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

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On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 06:07:09PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> multipathd [...] And beyond that, this daemon is really ugly too: it logs
>    at high log levels during boot that it found no configuration and
>    hence nothing to do. Yes, obviously, but that's a reason to shut up
>    and proceed quickly, not to complain loudly about that so that it
>    even appears on the scren (I mean srsly, this is the first thing I
>    saw when i booted from the fedora live media: a log message printed
>    all over the screen that multipathd has no working
>    configuration...).

This was supposed to be fixed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1631772.
If not, please reopen that bug.

> 5. libvirtd. Why is this running? Can't we make this socket
>    activatable + exit-on-idel? 

This was supposed to happen. See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1290357.

> I guess I should file bz issues about all of the above, but I am not
> sure against which packages? anaconda? comps (does that still exist)?
> the individual packages?

Individual packages. Logging issue obviously belong in the packages.
In principle fedora-release gets to decide what is started by default,
but it's probably better to start with a bug on the package because
its the maintainers know best if not starting the service by default
is possible and can file a fedora-release PR.

> It's also my hope that maybe some champion volunteers for tracking
> down issues like this and fixing them? i.e. keeping udev settle out of
> the default install alone would be a worthy goal for every release,
> given that it doubles boot time on typical systems... Anyone up for
> that?

Zbyszek
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