On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 02:45:22AM +0100, Dag Wieers wrote: > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Dave Jones wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 01:24:58AM +0100, Dag Wieers wrote: > > > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Jamie Zawinski wrote: > > > > > > > Also, more people run screen savers than tuxracer, so that's where the > > > > video driver crashes tend to occur. Then they blame me and I am sad. > > > > > > Hehe, I've had several people complain about 'random' crashes, usually > > > when they arrived at work in the morning or came back from coffee. All of > > > them related to 3D screensavers :) > > > > > > Maybe disabling 3D screensavers by default (and/or a warning about the > > > potential to crash when people open the screensaver configuration) would > > > reduce the uncomfortable (unstable) feeling people got when using Linux in > > > these cases. > > > > Or how about just fixing the drivers so they don't lock up ? > > People first have to know why it crashes before they know where to report > it. The anecdotes I gave was to indicate that people usually don't know > why it crashed and in return have a general feeling of unstability. > > I would like to make sure that 1) these people don't have an uncomfortable > feeling and 2) understand that enabling 3D has a potential to crash a > system, so people might realise why it happens and where to report it. The problem is a "turning on this feature may crash you computer" dialog is enough to scare away a majority of users. Lowering the amount of testing something gets lowers the possibility of it ever getting reported, and subsequently fixed. Dave