On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 01:36:17PM -0800, Jamie Zawinski wrote: > > And to debug 3D. We no longer have any way to debug 3D problems on Fedora > > with packages we know the client side of and build form. > > In my experience, xscreensaver is going to give the 3d hardware a much > more extensive workout than any given game. Maybe this has changed in > the latest Rawhide (I haven't checked) but it used to be that a Gnome > install came with the full complement of 3D savers. > > Also, more people run screen savers than tuxracer, so that's where the > video driver crashes tend to occur. Then they blame me and I am sad. Don't feel sad, read DRI source code, and shift the blame accordingly :-) On a serious note, in my experience 3d screensaver crashes have been driver problems _every_ time I've looked into them, whether its been DRI, or binary drivers. Dave