On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 05:35, Jakub Jelen <jjelen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, 2019-03-15 at 19:36 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 23:48:49 +0100, you wrote: > > > > > * Richard W.M. Jones [15/03/2019 20:23] : > > > > Is Java being dropped from the distro? > > > > > > Yes, that's what we were warned about months ago. > > > > Don't think so. > > > > Nothing has been said about dropping Java, and if anything the > > OpenJDK > > packagers have been more active with having multiple versions of Java > > now being necessary. > > > > However a bunch of Java packages are being retired, and those > > packages > > are required for a bunch of other packages. > > No. The java is not dropped from distro, but moved from normal release > cycle to the modular release for better packaging experience and so on. > Yes, the side effect of the moving is that the rawhide branch is > orphaned and will be retired unless somebody else will maintain it. And > yes, this will bring with it many other packages that depend on that, > because there is no way to build them against the java packages in the > modules (I did not even managed to find a way how to build my package > as a module against this java-packages module so I gave up again after > few more tries last week). > To me this all looks like a game of Othello where one side of the board is white, but black keeps laying down pieces and changing large areas to their colour. [Or in other board games where strategic moves of packages means everything else has to swap over to remain viable.] Even with 'ursa major' to slow it down, it is still an 'inevitability' that large parts of the distribution will fall into modularity space in the next couple of releases.. if only because people will start making '1 package' modules of whatever they are maintaining so they can keep their dependencies. > For the record, there is a fesco ticket discussing the delay of the > retiring, hopefully before we will have a way to build these packages > again: > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2104 > > Regards, > -- > Jakub Jelen > Software Engineer > Security Technologies > Red Hat, Inc. > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
