Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Gating Rawhide - Single package updates

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On Sat, 2019-03-02 at 10:12 +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 11:09:48PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2019-03-01 at 16:19 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GatingRawhideSinglePackageUpdates
> > > 
> > > == Summary ==
> > > We want to gate packages on test results before they can land in
> > > rawhide. This will reduce the amount of broken dependency,
> > > uninstallable packages and broken composes leading to a more stable
> > > rawhide as well as less work on the infrastructure and rel-eng teams
> > > to keep composes working.
> > > 
> > > This project will be split in two phases, at first only single package
> > > updates will be supported, in a second stage, we will add support for
> > > multi-packages updates.
> > > 
> > > This proposal is about the phase 1 of this project.
> > > 
> > > == Owner ==
> > > * Name: [[User:pingou|Pierre-Yves Chibon]]
> > > * Email: pingou - pingoured.fr
> > > 
> > > People who are/will be involved in this:
> > > * Coordinator: [[User:pingou|Pierre-Yves Chibon]]
> > > * Bodhi: [[User:bowlofeggs|Randy Barlow]] and [[User:abompard|Aurélien Bompard]]
> > > * Fedora CI: [[User:dperpeet|Dominik Perpeet]]
> > 
> > It might be a good idea to have a QA contact here, in case people
> > choose to block on tests maintained by the QA team (Taskotron or openQA
> > tests).
> 
> Yes and no, yes I'm all in favor of having a contact person from QA to help
> volunteer to pick up the right tests for their package, but no as which tests
> are used to gate is out of the scope of the proposal itself.
> 
> I'd be in favor of adding something like:
> """
> If you want to volunteer to opt-in into this workflow and need help figuring out
> which tests would be interesting to run in your package, contact foo at
> <email/list> or open a ticket at <tracker>
> """
> 
> Would that make sense?
> If so, where should we recommend packagers to get help?

It's more a case of: if people choose to gate on QA-maintained tests
and then there turns out to be some sort of problem involving tests not
running or flakes or whatever, it is going to be *perceived to be* a
part of this Change even if you're trying to keep it out of scope.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net
http://www.happyassassin.net
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