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Dne 29. 01. 19 v 20:31 Stephen John
Smoogen napsal(a):
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at
06:41:26PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> >This feels more like system-wide change…
> >Especially since you say that some extra packages
will be retired.
>
> A very limited set. The distro as a whole should not be
impacted by this.
>
> The retired packages are legacy cruft. And the
important stuff that
> needs to be updated needs some motivation like this.
"This change needs to motivate other important stuff that we
don't have
direct control over to change" seems like *exactly* the
reason we ask for
system-wide changes to be filed earlier.
This is like the 4th system wide change this release
which is coming in as a Self-Contained. Each time the
developer thinks it is self-contained because it is just
one little thing, but on regards it turns into being a
system-wide change. However because the two deadlines are
one after the other, it means that this change is pushed out
another 6 months where the 3-4 weeks between System-Wide and
Self-Contained doesn't seem very long. Can we either:
1) Move System-Wide and Self-Contained proposal deadlines
to be the same date and allow FESCO/etc determine if the
proposal needs to be moved to SW or SC then?
This split between SW and SC was artificial since the beginning
and I'd be happy if we dropped it.
If we keep this division, I am for one deadline for both.
Vít
2) Move Self-Contained deadline BEFORE System-Wide so
that if it is really System-Wide move it to the correct
category?
3) Add a re-evaluate deadline after the first two? This
allows us to get an idea that "oh wait this is going to
really mess things up and we need to push this out one
release?" or other items
At the moment, I think pushing out removal of yum3 for
Fedora31 doesn't make sense if there isn't enough python2
for it to be useful in Fedora30. However I also think this
is a system-wide change because a lot of tools need time to
test that they REALLY do support not having yum3 in them.
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