Re: Fw: Re: OUTAGE: Koji system 2019-01-11 -> 2019-01-14

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On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 10:08 PM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Neal Gompa wrote:
> > Well, strictly speaking, this is really only a problem for IBM
> > architectures (ppc64le and s390x) because there's no economical way
> > for anyone to be able to care for them. For both ARM architectures we
> > support, there are a number of low-cost (in the impulse buy range,
> > even!) systems that people can acquire to do local development. For
> > the upcoming RISC-V port, it's practically guaranteed that we're going
> > to see similar low-cost hardware so that people can be exposed to the
> > platform develop relatively soon after the Fedora RISC-V port is
> > mainlined.
>
> Well, those low-cost devices are typically:
> * usable only for development/hacking/toying around, due to their form
>   factor (bare board), peripherals and/or (lack of) computing power,
> * extremely slow at everything including building packages (just look at how
>   slow the relatively fast Koji ARM builders are; low-cost devices are a lot
>   worse than that),
> * so bare that you have to spend a multiple of the purchase price of the
>   device to add needed development equipment (RAM, storage, I/O peripherals,
>   etc.),
> so I am not convinced that they are really useful targets for developers.
>

Sorry, I was referring to systems like the OverDrive 1000[1], which
are PC form-factor ARM systems.

I have one of these myself, and they're very handy for doing
reasonable development of software on ARM.

[1]: https://softiron.com/development-tools/overdrive-1000/

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