Editions vs. Spins (was: Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID)

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John Harris wrote:
> Really, the issue there is specifically that it isn't "just another spin",

+1

This pointless artificial distinction between "Editions" and "Spins" needs 
to stop (because there is no technical difference whatsoever between the 2 
concepts), as does the unfair advertising ("Editions" as shiny logos above 
the scrolling horizon and with one-click links directly to the ISO vs. 
"Spins" hidden beyond the scrolling horizon, grayed out, with no names and 
no description, and requiring at least 2 clicks to get them). But the people 
in power still refuse to do anything about it.

The grayed out logos are particularly outrageous because they are doing to 
the upstream logos exactly the kind of things explicitly forbidden in the 
Fedora logo guidelines (changing the colors and even reducing them to 2). 
(It so happens that the new Fedora logo will likely allow this kind of 
usage, but have you ever asked the upstreams whether THEY are OK with those 
unilateral changes to their logos?) I really don't see why, whereas all 
other icons on get.fp.o are colored, the ones for the Spins (and ONLY those) 
have to be grayed out. Yet https://pagure.io/design/issue/411 was closed as 
"fixed" without any actual fix having been deployed, ever.

I also find it funny that the argument for the one-click direct ISO download 
for GNOME "Workstation" (or formerly "Desktop") has always been that choices 
confuse users. But now there is a "Workstation"/"Server"/"Atomic" choice. 
While "Workstation" vs. "Server" is something that makes sense to most 
users, "Atomic" is definitely not (and the description full of technical 
jargon such as "Docker" and "Kubernetes" won't help either). Yet, Fedora 
still refuses to show the full list of choices there and shows only those 3 
arbitrarily picked ones.

        Kevin Kofler
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