John Harris wrote: > Really, the issue there is specifically that it isn't "just another spin", +1 This pointless artificial distinction between "Editions" and "Spins" needs to stop (because there is no technical difference whatsoever between the 2 concepts), as does the unfair advertising ("Editions" as shiny logos above the scrolling horizon and with one-click links directly to the ISO vs. "Spins" hidden beyond the scrolling horizon, grayed out, with no names and no description, and requiring at least 2 clicks to get them). But the people in power still refuse to do anything about it. The grayed out logos are particularly outrageous because they are doing to the upstream logos exactly the kind of things explicitly forbidden in the Fedora logo guidelines (changing the colors and even reducing them to 2). (It so happens that the new Fedora logo will likely allow this kind of usage, but have you ever asked the upstreams whether THEY are OK with those unilateral changes to their logos?) I really don't see why, whereas all other icons on get.fp.o are colored, the ones for the Spins (and ONLY those) have to be grayed out. Yet https://pagure.io/design/issue/411 was closed as "fixed" without any actual fix having been deployed, ever. I also find it funny that the argument for the one-click direct ISO download for GNOME "Workstation" (or formerly "Desktop") has always been that choices confuse users. But now there is a "Workstation"/"Server"/"Atomic" choice. While "Workstation" vs. "Server" is something that makes sense to most users, "Atomic" is definitely not (and the description full of technical jargon such as "Docker" and "Kubernetes" won't help either). Yet, Fedora still refuses to show the full list of choices there and shows only those 3 arbitrarily picked ones. Kevin Kofler _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx