Re: Organizing a "packager experience" objective and working group

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On 1/10/19 11:47 AM, Artur Iwicki wrote:
> Thanks for bringing some attention to this, Ben. I don't do a whole lot of packaging, but I admit there are some places where the workflow could be improved. I'd be willing to join the group and help where I can.
> 
> Some notes off the top of my head that I ran into recently:
> 
> - fedpkg hides quite a few tools underneath, and it's not always clear which tool is running. This becomes a nuisance when a tool requests a password, since quite often you just get a "Password: " prompt. I think bodhi does exactly that, and every time it does I scratch my head trying to remember if I should provide the GPG passphrase, FAS account password, or something else.

Yeah, thats bad and should be fixed.

> - Related to the previous one, error messages could be improved. Recently I had to renew my Pagure token so I could request a new repo. I renewed my token, found the config file, updated it... and nothing changed. Turned out it was the wrong config file - old, legacy location maybe? Don't know. My point is, it'd be helpful if every error that says something like "value X in config is wrong" would also specify which config file it's talking about.

Yep. another good one to clean up. :)

> - fedpkg clone performs the clone over ssh, instead of HTTPS, so if you're not logged into your FAS account, you get an "access denied" error, which is as amusing as it's irritating, given that the package repos are public.

Well, there's some history here. packagers can use ssh because they have
actual accounts on the machine (restricted to just git commands). If you
are not in the packager group however you cannot use ssh.

Since support for https pushing was added, we should likely change the
default in fedpkg to just use that and only setup ssh if asked. For
https pushing you only need to have a browser and a kerberos ticket the
first time you clone the repo (to get a token). After that you have a
token and don't need to login unless you get a new token somewhere else.
(Only one is valid at a time).
> - Now that I've mentioned it, maybe we should add something like "fedpkg fas-login"? Personally I've put "alias koji-init='kinit my-FAS-account@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" in my .bashrc, because looking up how to solve the "koji says I'm unauthenticated" error got boring after the third time.

Well, not sure how much it matters if we switch to https pushing.. but
sure.

kevin


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