On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 09:59 Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On 1/2/19 7:52 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
>>>>>> "FV" == Fabio Valentini <decathorpe@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> FV> - unless those other, main icon theme packages have also added
> FV> %transfiletrigger* scriptlets, like I've done for elementary and
> FV> Paper.
>
> Perhaps it should be mandatory for icon themes to add the necessary file
> triggers so that no package will ever need to have a scriptlet which
> calls gtk-update-icon-cache.
>
> In general I think that the distro as a whole should pivot towards
> official, guideline-codified scriptlet avoidance, such that adding
> appropriate file triggers should be mandatory where it avoids the need
> for packages down the dependency chain to have scriptlets. I'm sure
> there are a number of places where this could be done. Having this as a
> distro-wide goal would make it easier to get changes like the glibc
> ldconfig file triggers implemented (which took years to get the current
> incomplete implementation pushed).
+1
Ultimately the goal should be making the "traditional" scriptlets
extinct to the point that using them requires an exception.
I've no illusions here, it's going to be a long long road and require
further enhancements to rpm (for example dealing with users and groups)
but that's what the long-term overall goal should be.
I was wondering about the case of users and groups in scriptlets. Something I would like to investigate next time I dedicate free time to Fedora is conditional and one-shot services with systemd.
Maybe some of that complexity could move from the package manager to the service manager. For the use case I have in mind it's definitely the service that wants the user and group, because none of the installed files need them. It's only a runtime requirement for the service.
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