Hi, Thanks for your answer! As we speak, I have solved my problem (see below). That aside, I think that there is a serious issue with Gnome's handling of locales: On Mon, 2018-11-12 at 19:45 +0100, Rafal Luzynski wrote: > 9.11.2018 14:39 Dominik Grafenhofer <d.fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I would like to create a new custom locale (basically irish english > > + > > monday as first day of the week). > > Off-topic: does not en_GB.utf8 provide this functionality? No, I would like to have Euro as my default currency. > Is there a bug in the existing en_IE locale which needs a fix? I am a German speaking user, living in Germany. Still, I would like to use English (UK) language settings (UI, Email templates,...), but retain some other conventions used in Germany (Monday as first day of week, Euro as currency). en_IE is the closest I could get using default locales. > > Where can I find recent information > > on how locales are implemented in Fedora (I am on Fedora 29)? I > > found > > lots of outdated information, which was somewhat helpful, but also > > quite confusing. > > Locales are implemented in glibc rather than Fedora. I don't remember > where I saw it written but the message was that since all existing > documentation is currently outdated the recommended way is to take a > source > code of any existing locale [1] and rework it for your own needs. > > The tool to build your own locale data is called localedef. You can > find some documentation at the command line: > > localedef --help > man localedef > info localedef The missing piece in the documentation is, that you have to install the "glibc-locale-source" package to make localedef compile locales (see below). The error message localedef yields was not clear enough for me to realize, that there is a package missing. In a desperate move, I consulted dnf to tell me packages containing the substring locale. glibc-locale-source sounded somewhat appropriate. > > The purpose of this tool is to allow the users to build and use their > own > locales. You don't need the root privileges to use it. Therefore your > idea > seems to be correct. > > That said, I'm trying to find a simpler solution to your problem. ... which is - as far as I know (see info spread across this mail) - not feasible. > > > Thank you, > > Dominik > > > > Background: Gnome-shell does not allow to customize locale settings > > beyond choosing one locale setting globally (ui language, currency, > > first day of week,...). > > I'm not sure but as far as I understand this, GNOME allows you to > select > a locale for language (messages) and formats (I guess this is > everything > else). Is it sufficient for you? Unfortunately no. I would like to mix and match different formats (see above). > If not you may have to set the localization environment variables > (LC_MESSAGES, LC_TIME, LC_MEASUREMENT etc.) individually in your > profile > scripts. Yes, that would be great - if Gnome Shell would adhere to that wish/configuration setting. It applies the LANG setting (if i am not mistaken) to all other areas (LC_TIME, LC_MEASUREMENT, etc.) as well. > If really none of these options works then you will have to build > your > own locale. Again, in order to use it you will have to set the > environment > variables (e.g., path to your new locale) in your profile scripts. Yes, this is how it worked: 1) I downloaded an appropriate locale close enough to what I was looking for (i.e. en_IE in my case). [*] 2) I have made adjustments to the file. 3) I installed glibc-locale-source (this was the step which I found out about only now, and which kept me from arriving at the solution earlier). 4) Run "localedef -f UTF-8 -i en_DE en_DE.UTF-8" to compile the locale. 4) Add "LANG=en_DE.UTF-8" to /etc/locale.conf (or better to a local profile) 5) Reboot Yay! Works! > Regards, > > Rafal Thank you for taking time to guide me in the right direction! Best, Dominik [*] Better source: After installing glibc-locale-source /usr/share/i18n/locales/ is populated with locale source files. > > [1] > https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=tree;f=localedata/locales > _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
