Hi all! I'm new on this list. I work on Qubes OS, where Fedora is used as a base distribution. While trying to build the installation image in reproducible manner[1], I found the current installation image have unusual layout. Quoting dracut.cmdline manual page: squashfs.img | Squashfs from LiveCD .iso downloaded via network !(mount) /LiveOS |- rootfs.img | Filesystem image to mount read-only !(mount) /bin | Live filesystem /boot | /dev | ... | This rootfs.img layer makes the image build very much unreproducible. Why is it even there? Bare squashfs.img layer should be enough. Then, mount overlayfs over it (I see there is even some partial support for it in dmsquash-live). Most other Live systems I've seen use just squashfs + overlayfs (or aufs if kernel is older), so it's commonly tested configuration. I *guess* it's there for historical reason, from before aufs/overlayfs being available. Is there any other reason for that? If there is no other reason, I propose to drop this and have installer/live filesystem directly in squashfs.img. This have multiple benefits: - it's much easier to make the image build process reproducible (see below) - less complexity, both in the build and in the boot (the whole dmsquash-live dracut module can be replaced with <20 line function[2] - smaller initramfs (which is extremely important if needed to be included in efiboot.img, which can't be larger than 32MB) - slightly faster boot time (device-mapper is slow) What do you think? As for the reproducibility, I've made changes to lorax (including dropping rootfs.img layer), anaconda, pungi and createrepo and this all allows to build bit-by-bit identical image, given the same input (rpm packages, pungi configuration, $SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH variable[3]). Well, almost - there is an issue with efiboot.img, but I already have a solution, just not pushed it yet. You can find all the pull requests collected here: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-installer-qubes-os/pull/26 I'll work further to make the changes merged upstream. [1] https://reproducible-builds.org/ [2] https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-installer-qubes-os/pull/26/commits/332be8e1e3e1006013772528078914f491d14c1f [3] https://reproducible-builds.org/specs/source-date-epoch/ -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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