On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 05, 2018 at 02:02:46AM +0100, Andrew Clayton wrote: >> Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 17:32 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >> > > The fact is, the world has moved away from quoted mail with inline replies. >> > > Top posting rules basically everywhere except hold-out old-school mailing >> > > lists. >> > ...like this one. ;) >> His email was from mutt as well! I guess fedora-devel just isn't >> old-school enough :( > > Okay, I admit to some level of trolling there. :) > > My point, though, is that I don't think we can afford to be exclusively > old-school to the point where it makes a significant barrier to entry. I agree. And I think this needs rephrasing since forever: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Place each part of your reply after the text it addresses (i.e., NO Top-Posting, please see "Wikipedia - Top Posting" and links therein for more on this). It's one thing to state a preference for bottom posting, and why. But the present guidelines encourage people to flip out whenever there's a top post. > Top-posting isn't just an annoying Gmail thing; it's a whole different > approach to using email for conversations. And, yeah, it *is* a much worse > one than our old-school threaded, minimal-quoting, usenet-inspired style. > That's why the general trend is *away* from email. For all the faults of gmail, one thing I like is being able to search lists within gmail. > > The Foreman community recently switched away from mailing lists in this way, > and https://theforeman.org/2018/07/discourse-6-months-on-impact-assesment.html > is really interesting and helpful read on the topic for those who might have > some ... trepidation. > > I'm not sayin' we are ready to shut this list down, but it's honestly worth > considering if a different approach will be more effective. Far worse would be fragmented list/forums resulting from mutually exclusive venues. It's probably a joke and not worth the effort to have automagic behind the scenes cross posting between discourse forums and hyperkitty (email) lists. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
