Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

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On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 11:11 AM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 11:27:02PM -0000, Ray Strode wrote:
> > Why switch, when we already have
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ? it does good quoting already, you get to click what you want, and i'm
> > guessing this reply i'm sending will show up plaintext.
>
> Unfortunately, all is not rosy there. See this thread on the users' list
> from this fall about confusion with hyperkitty quoting: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/HQATMLGPSWGT4PGPUMYOLA6FOL6AV3XO/#ZRYTMEI3HIBLYWGQK4RZUBA4RQZREZR7
> (Look back at your message I'm replying to here, and note that the standard
> attribution line is missing. And that's not the only issue identified.)
>
> Additionally, when one does reply, it's just using the standard web browser
> text box, and to my knowledge that doesn't have an easy "delete by line"
> keyboard command, let alone things like smart reflow with quoting. So that's
> not super-ideal for inline replies. Hyperkitty's threaded view also is
> rudimentary compared to a good mail client.
>
> All of this stuff would be something we could invest development resources
> in and make better, but we don't really _have_ those resources, and no
> significant outside-of-fedora hyperkitty development community ever
> developed. We're left with some pretty awful things like the prominent "Sign
> Up" button on every Fedora list leading to a big, ugly "Sign Up Closed: We
> are sorry, but the sign up is currently closed" screen —  which is not very
> inviting, to say the least.
>

Python is migrating to Mailman 3 now:
https://mail.python.org/mm3/mailman3/lists/

And there's interest in the openSUSE community to switch from mlmmj to
Mailman 3 with HyperKitty.

So the community *is* developing, it's just much later than probably expected.



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