On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 09:35:41AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > Independently of this, you could also retire 1.7 with the end of F27 if > > > there was no need to have it in the future releases. > > Is there a way for users to say "keep me on whatever module is the default" > > when upgrading? > That would be a violation of the design principle that users should > never have their module stream change underneath them without their > consent. That's fine and all, but I don't want to violate a different principle: release-to-release updates on Fedora should be painless. Modularity is supposed to make that better. The no-switch-without-consent design principle is fine, but in order for these two things to both be true, we need a better UX than erroring out and hoping the user knows what to do. > Now, it gets a little trickier when we talk about upgrades from a > release that supports 1.7 to one that no longer does... in that case I > believe our expected behavior is that the user is expected to switch > to the newer stream *before* initiating the upgrade process. So they'd > do: > > ``` > dnf module enable foomodule:1.8 > dnf distro-sync > dnf system-upgrade --releasever=nextversion download > ``` How do they know they need to do the former? If it's "they'll find out when dnf system-upgrade errors out!", then see above. I'm ... not enthused. Something in dnf system-upgrade needs to do it; possibly a "dnf system-upgrade prep" step before "download". Also, since we're enabling modules on Workstation, what happens in GNOME Software? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx