Re: Managing stream (arbitrary) branch and module lifecycles

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On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 09:35:41AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > > Independently of this, you could also retire 1.7 with the end of F27 if
> > > there was no need to have it in the future releases.
> > Is there a way for users to say "keep me on whatever module is the default"
> > when upgrading?
> That would be a violation of the design principle that users should
> never have their module stream change underneath them without their
> consent.

That's fine and all, but I don't want to violate a different principle:
release-to-release updates on Fedora should be painless. Modularity is
supposed to make that better. The no-switch-without-consent design principle
is fine, but in order for these two things to both be true, we need a better
UX than erroring out and hoping the user knows what to do.

> Now, it gets a little trickier when we talk about upgrades from a
> release that supports 1.7 to one that no longer does... in that case I
> believe our expected behavior is that the user is expected to switch
> to the newer stream *before* initiating the upgrade process. So they'd
> do:
> 
> ```
> dnf module enable foomodule:1.8
> dnf distro-sync
> dnf system-upgrade --releasever=nextversion download
> ```

How do they know they need to do the former?

If it's "they'll find out when dnf system-upgrade errors out!", then see
above. I'm ... not enthused. Something in dnf system-upgrade needs to do it;
possibly a "dnf system-upgrade prep" step before "download".

Also, since we're enabling modules on Workstation, what happens in GNOME
Software?

-- 
Matthew Miller
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Fedora Project Leader
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