Re: Proposal: Reduce *-devel packages dependencies on other unneeded *-devel packages

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On 08/12/2018 12:46 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Robert Marcano wrote:

And thinking about it, a lot *-devel packages interdependencies should
be Recommends and not Requires

You keep saying this, I'd like to see some evidence to support that.

Example below. why do I need all these dependencies, when I only link directly with gtk3 widgets? some of those are only there because gtk links against them and maybe I will link with them too, but some are so low level that doesn't make sense.

I should be able, for example, to build a very small container image that only contains the devel packages I really link with, to use on my builders (using install_weak_deps=False or any other solution).

But anyways, these are only ideas to help reduce the chance of people overlinking. Maybe I am wrong on liking less implicit dependencies when installing devel packages.

# dnf install gtk3-devel
Last metadata expiration check: 0:42:52 ago on Sun 12 Aug 2018 12:11:09 PM -04.
Dependencies resolved.
========================================================================================================
 Package                        Arch          Version                              Repository      Size
========================================================================================================
Installing:
 gtk3-devel                     x86_64        3.22.30-1.fc28                       fedora         4.4 M
Installing dependencies:
 at-spi2-atk-devel              x86_64        2.26.2-1.fc28                        fedora          18 k
 at-spi2-core-devel             x86_64        2.28.0-1.fc28                        fedora         142 k
 atk-devel                      x86_64        2.28.1-1.fc28                        fedora         191 k
 bzip2-devel                    x86_64        1.0.6-26.fc28                        fedora         223 k
 cairo-devel                    x86_64        1.15.12-2.fc28                       updates        271 k
 cairo-gobject-devel            x86_64        1.15.12-2.fc28                       updates         24 k
 cmake-filesystem               x86_64        3.11.2-1.fc28                        updates         38 k
 dbus-devel                     x86_64        1:1.12.10-1.fc28                     updates         65 k
 expat-devel                    x86_64        2.2.5-3.fc28                         fedora          54 k
 fontconfig-devel               x86_64        2.13.0-4.fc28                        updates        144 k
 freetype-devel                 x86_64        2.8-10.fc28                          fedora         453 k
 fribidi-devel                  x86_64        1.0.2-1.fc28                         updates         30 k
 gdk-pixbuf2-devel              x86_64        2.36.12-1.fc28                       fedora         221 k
 graphite2-devel                x86_64        1.3.10-5.fc28                        fedora          44 k
 harfbuzz-devel                 x86_64        1.7.5-3.fc28                         fedora         180 k
 libX11-devel                   x86_64        1.6.5-7.fc28                         fedora         985 k
 libXau-devel                   x86_64        1.0.8-11.fc28                        fedora          19 k
 libXcomposite-devel            x86_64        0.4.4-12.fc28                        fedora          21 k
 libXcursor-devel               x86_64        1.1.15-1.fc28                        fedora          28 k
 libXdamage-devel               x86_64        1.1.4-12.fc28                        fedora          14 k
 libXext-devel                  x86_64        1.3.3-8.fc28                         fedora          79 k
 libXfixes-devel                x86_64        5.0.3-5.fc28                         fedora          18 k
 libXft-devel                   x86_64        2.3.2-8.fc28                         fedora          24 k
 libXi-devel                    x86_64        1.7.9-6.fc28                         fedora         110 k
 libXinerama-devel              x86_64        1.1.3-10.fc28                        fedora          18 k
 libXrandr-devel                x86_64        1.5.1-5.fc28                         fedora          25 k
 libXrender-devel               x86_64        0.9.10-5.fc28                        fedora          21 k
 libXxf86vm-devel               x86_64        1.1.4-7.fc28                         fedora          23 k
 libdrm-devel                   x86_64        2.4.93-1.fc28                        updates        142 k
 libepoxy-devel                 x86_64        1.5.2-1.fc28                         updates        141 k
 libglvnd-core-devel            x86_64        1:1.0.1-0.7.git5baa1e5.fc28          updates         23 k
 libglvnd-devel                 x86_64        1:1.0.1-0.7.git5baa1e5.fc28          updates         15 k
 libglvnd-opengl                x86_64        1:1.0.1-0.7.git5baa1e5.fc28          updates         47 k
 libicu-devel                   x86_64        60.2-2.fc28                          fedora         920 k
 libpng-devel                   x86_64        2:1.6.34-6.fc28                      updates        326 k
 libuuid-devel                  x86_64        2.32.1-1.fc28                        updates         91 k
 libxcb-devel                   x86_64        1.13-1.fc28                          fedora         1.1 M
 libxkbcommon-devel             x86_64        0.8.0-5.fc28                         updates         59 k
 mesa-libEGL-devel              x86_64        18.0.5-3.fc28                        updates         47 k
 mesa-libGL-devel               x86_64        18.0.5-3.fc28                        updates        173 k
 pango-devel                    x86_64        1.42.3-1.fc28                        updates        320 k
 pixman-devel                   x86_64        0.34.0-8.fc28                        updates         19 k
 wayland-devel                  x86_64        1.15.0-1.fc28                        fedora         145 k
 wayland-protocols-devel        noarch        1.14-1.fc28                          updates         69 k
 xorg-x11-proto-devel           noarch        2018.4-1.fc28                        fedora         282 k

Transaction Summary
========================================================================================================
Install  46 Packages



-- Rex
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