On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 16:39 +0000, Jeff Johnson wrote: >> Try "expected" rather than "appropriately" > > I think I prefer "appropriately". "Expected" only begs the question > "what does that mean?" even more: expected by whom? (It also doesn't > fit into the current grammatical structure of the draft, unless you > write "Expectedly to install, update and remove...", which is hideous > and no-one will understand it). Expect is a word of probability. Appropriate is about ownership and that which is proper. One possible "expectation" is *shit should work for most people most of the time, users aren't all freaking out, while also not leaving a significant minority completely stranded* A more refined "expectation" is QA takes the lead on determining whether install/update/remove is working appropriately, taking into consideration all the limitations of Fedora infrastructure as well as reasonable user expectations. "Appropriate means that the relevant update mechanism(s) for any given deployment must apply the correct updates to the correct components, and not apply incorrect updates. To give a specific example of why this wording is included, there was previously a case where newer package versions from modules were being installed as 'updates' to systems which did not have those modules installed, only the package with the same name from the non-modular system repositories. This would be an example of 'inappropriate' updating that violated this criterion." "We expect that a given deployment will apply correct updates to components, and not apply incorrect updates." I think you can make expect or appropriate work equally well, the openendedness at first glance is really on "what do correct and incorrect" mean? But that's probably something that logic dictates the outcome of in straightforward fashion once you start doing the autopsy on the problem. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/NW2CHSRPOCC7B4OGOCRPXBHG5RFEAAQB/