Re: Release criteria proposal: installing / removing software

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On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson
<adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 16:39 +0000, Jeff Johnson wrote:
>> Try "expected" rather than "appropriately"
>
> I think I prefer "appropriately". "Expected" only begs the question
> "what does that mean?" even more: expected by whom? (It also doesn't
> fit into the current grammatical structure of the draft, unless you
> write "Expectedly to install, update and remove...", which is hideous
> and no-one will understand it).


Expect is a word of probability. Appropriate is about ownership and
that which is proper.

One possible "expectation" is *shit should work for most people most
of the time, users aren't all freaking out, while also not leaving a
significant minority completely stranded*

A more refined "expectation" is QA takes the lead on determining
whether install/update/remove is working appropriately, taking into
consideration all the limitations of Fedora infrastructure as well as
reasonable user expectations.


"Appropriate means that the relevant update mechanism(s) for any given
deployment must apply the correct updates to the correct components,
and not apply incorrect updates. To give a specific example of why this
wording is included, there was previously a case where newer package
versions from modules were being installed as 'updates' to systems
which did not have those modules installed, only the package with the
same name from the non-modular system repositories. This would be an
example of 'inappropriate' updating that violated this criterion."



"We expect that a given deployment will apply correct updates to
components, and not apply incorrect updates."

I think you can make expect or appropriate work equally well, the
openendedness at first glance is really on "what do correct and
incorrect" mean? But that's probably something that logic dictates the
outcome of in straightforward fashion once you start doing the autopsy
on the problem.


-- 
Chris Murphy
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