Re: F29 System Wide Change: ZRAM support for ARM images

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On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The proposal suggests using zram device for swap, but doesn't say if
> there will be a secondary swap on disk.
>
> Zram uses memory rather than a drive partition as backing, so it's
> useful for /tmp instead of tmpfs; and also when there isn't a swap
> partition on the local drive.
>
> But if there is a backing device available, zswap uses compression to
> avoid swap until it can't and then pushes compressed data to swap
> device. So it moderates the abrupt drop off in performance when
> transitioning from memory to swap. Zram as swap will postpone that
> abrupt transition but in the case where it runs out of space, you're
> going to get that same abrupt fall off when swapping (or oom if no
> secondary swap is setup).
>
> Anyway, I've been using zswap for a year and rarely hit swapping to
> the backing device.

OK so the questions are:
- will there by a secondary swap device setup by the installer
(primary being zram)?
- why not just use zswap?
- could the feature be a bit smarter, i.e. use zram when there's no
backing device and use zswap when there is?
- could the feature additionally use zram instead of tmpfs for /tmp? I
guess the possible negative is this won't spill over into swap like
tmpfs does.

Bit off topic but dracut uses /var/tmp to build up the initramfs
during kernel updates and then copies it from /var/tmp to /boot while
also compressing it. This seems rather suboptimal and definitely would
benefit from /tmp in particular /tmp on a zram device. I'd already
like to see this on may laptop and NUC server, but in particular for
IoT the less writing to flash the better.

--
Chris Murphy
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