Hi, folks! We currently have a Final release criterion that reads as follows: "A spin-kickstarts package which contains the exact kickstart files used to build the release must be present in the release repository. The included kickstarts must define the correct set of release repositories. Why? This is considered part of Fedora's duty to be 'self-hosting': the kickstarts used to produce the release images are a vital piece of information required to duplicate that release, so they must be preserved along with the release." Lately this requirement has been fairly annoying in practice. Updating the package prior to release does not appear to be in anyone's regular schedule, so invariably what happens is shortly before the release deadline I realize we haven't built a 'release' spin-kickstarts package and have to file a blocker bug and ping people with the necessary permissions (of which there are only a few) to build one in a tearing hurry. Then we have to approve the blocker bug and push the updated package through the freeze, all wasting time we could be spending on more important fixes. The benefit here is really fairly tiny, as well. It's arguable whether anyone cares particularly whether a Fedora release, as a frozen artifact, is 100% internally reproducible (and I'm not sure whether our releases actually *are* reproducible in any case, these days, I'm not at all sure we ship all the necessary metadata and so on for *every single deliverable* within the distribution). These days I'd suggest it should be quite acceptable to simply use git tags for this purpose. It should be quite easy for rel-eng to adjust the release scripts to create a tag in the fedora-kickstarts repo (and why not fedora-comps too, while we're at it) for each 'candidate' compose, named for the compose ID. That would make it very easy to access the correct kickstarts for any Fedora candidate compose just by a 'git checkout', with no need for the cumbersome work of getting the package into the compose. Naturally this would go along with updates to any relevant docs or wiki pages, recommending to use the git repository instead of the RPM packages, and explaining the tagging scheme. As for the package, we could either keep it but not sweat about updating it for each release, retire it entirely, or change it to contain only a text file pointing to the git repository (or to the doc / wiki page that explains the git repo location and tagging strategy). Thoughts? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/X4YKEUQYAKLRGEPDJOOIMZNJZMM23CMU/
