Wow, 7 digests were spawned from today's back and forth on this topic. About two digests from the latest ones people made the following suggestion and I wanted to ditto: At the rate I've noticed, from finish of FCX to finish of FCX+1 is about 8 months. (Give or take a month) So why not let FC4 be 5 CDs. When FC5 comes out at the end of the year, we will have anaconda installing from repos anyway, and we can trim down all the way to 1 or 2 CDs. Perhaps I'm the atypical user, but going through all of the packages in yum and trying to figure out what to install from the "extras" is a lot more of a hassle than downloading another iso. Just leave it going over night...does anyone pay by the hour anymore? (And don't use AOL cuz it may kick you off) Finally, about FC3 not being in magazines...that is a false statement. Linux Format Magazine recently included FC3 in the DVD edition of their magazine. So while the issue of trimming down Fedora may be moot after this distro (with the anaconda fix/update/hack), I don't think having just 300mb (not even half a 700mb cd) extra is a big deal. I think that's been lost over all of these emails - it's not really an extra CD it's an extra half-cd. So one wait's 1.5 times as long as they do now, no biggie. I really think it would save a lot of hassle. Vote with me 5 CDs in FC4 and 2 CDs in FC5 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250