Once upon a time, Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@xxxxxxxxxx> said: > Think of it this way: would you push OOo to extras? Why not? If so, > why insist on pushing other very, perhaps even more useful pieces of > software there, before they have be regarded as actually part of the > distro, not as second-class citizens? How many Fedora users will use OOo vs. how many will use Java development tools? The main use most users have for Java is applets, and Fedora doesn't have anything for applets yet (you still have to use Sun's JRE which can't be included in Fedora). I think you are overestimating the importance of Java to the average user. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.