Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vít Ondruch" <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:46:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH
> 
> 
> 
> Dne 2.5.2018 v 16:35 Siteshwar Vashisht napsal(a):
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Tomas Orsava" <torsava@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> >> <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "David Kaspar" <dkaspar@xxxxxxxxxx>,
> >> "Kamil Dudka" <kdudka@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Miro Hrončok" <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx>,
> >> "Petr Viktorin" <pviktori@xxxxxxxxxx>,
> >> "Siteshwar Vashisht" <svashish@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:23:10 PM
> >> Subject: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >> I'd like to propose putting the ~/.local/bin in front of the /usr/bin on
> >> the PATH.
> >>
> >> Currently /usr/bin has priority over ~/.local/bin, which causes a [bug]
> >> where the old system-installed executable written in Python (from
> >> /usr/bin) is launched, but it finds new Python sources (installed into
> >> $HOME) which it doesn't work with and crashes.
> >>
> >> [bug] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1571650
> >>
> >> I believe the current configuration breaks the intuitive expectation
> >> that things installed closer to the user should take priority. That's
> >> for example how it works with Python.
> >> Interestingly, ubuntu and opensuse do not have ~/.local/bin on their
> >> PATH (though Ubuntu has ~/bin) so we can't take guidance there.
> >>
> >> Does anyone see a reason not to prioritize ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin?
> > Most of the discussion in this thread focuses on security rather than sane
> > behavior. It is going to be a system wide change. An application may get
> > affected if it depends on system provided utilites which gets overridden
> > by ~/.local/bin.
> >
> > For e.g.
> >
> >> cat /bin/foo
> > #!/bin/bash
> > ls -l
> >> cat ~/.local/bin/ls
> > #!/bin/bash
> > echo "Strange world!"
> >> /bin/foo
> > Strange world!
> >
> > So this change breaks something that is outside user's installation. This
> > should happen only if a user has explicitly overriden $PATH to prioritize
> > user installation paths.
> 
> User explicitly installed SW into his home directory. Why (s)he needs to
> override the $PATH in addition to make the SW work?

Users should be aware too that there are 2 different versions of the same utility on their system. And they should be explicit about not using system provided one.

> 
> Vít
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