On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:03 PM Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 20:41 +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > > The Fedora_28_RC_1.1 compose [1] is considered as GOLD and it is going > > to be shipped on 2018-May-01 as Fedora 28 Final release. > > > > For more information please check the meeting minutes [2] from the > > Go/No-Go meeting. > For the record, I have determined to at least my own satisfaction that > this is the first *ever* on-time Fedora release. Go team! > For releases from 11 onwards it's easy to demonstrate that they > slipped: the original dates were kept in their wiki schedule pages with > a strike-through each time they slipped, so you just go to each > release's page and verify it has some strikethroughs for the 'Final > release" date. > For releases from 7 to 10 this wasn't done - the 'official' schedule > page was just silently edited when the schedule slipped, and as the > wiki at that point in history was MoinMoin not Mediawiki, we don't have > the edit histories any more. However, I've found references to earlier > schedules around the place (meeting logs, mailing list archives, forum > posts, sometimes John Poelstra's blog) that sufficiently indicate there > *was* an 'official' schedule with an earlier release date than the > actual one in each case. If anyone's as sadly nerdy as me, I can > provide specific references for each of these releases. > For releases from FC2 to FC6 you can find the schedules in the Wayback > Machine archives for http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ : https://web.archive.org/web/20030701000000*/http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ > For these releases, the schedule was never claimed to be 'official', it > was always referred to as a 'draft'. But I came up with a pretty > conservative definition of 'delayed': I looked at the page approx. 3 > weeks before the *actual* release date for each of these releases. In > each case, the Final release date that was scheduled 3 weeks before the > *actual* release date didn't match, it was earlier. I think it's > reasonable to consider this as a 'slip' in each case - if we didn't > even meet the schedule we had planned less than a month before release, > it's pretty hard to argue that's not a 'slip'. > FC1 is the trickiest. I don't think any FC1 development schedule was > ever really made public. So for that one I got creative. There's an > article on LWN - written by Joe Brockmeier no less! - around the time > of the release: > https://lwn.net/Articles/56036/ > It was written on Wednesday 2018-10-29, and states in part: > "With the first stable release of the Fedora Core scheduled for early > next week..." > Now, the release actually happened on 2018-11-05. Which *is* 'next > week' from 2018-10-29, but it's also Wednesday of the next week. I am > going to hold that no-one can reasonably claim Wednesday is "early" in > a given week. Surely only Monday and Tuesday (and Sunday, depending on > what day you think a week starts on) can plausibly claim to be "early". > On that basis, I'm gonna say FC1 was at least a day late from the > schedule in place a week before it came out, and on that basis...every > release from FC1 to F27 was at least a day late. And F28 is the first > one that's ever been on time. > :P Welp.... I don't know what to say except... We're going to get snark for this anyway, I bet! -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
