Dne 16.2.2018 v 16:12 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): > > Dne 16.2.2018 v 15:27 Daniel P. Berrangé napsal(a): >> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:56:32PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: >>> Proposed System Wide Change: Remove GCC from BuildRoot >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_GCC_from_BuildRoot >>> >>> >>> Owner(s): >>> * Igor Gnatenko <ignatenkobrain at fedoraproject dot org> >>> >>> >>> Removing gcc and gcc-c++ from default buildroot in Koji and mock. >>> >>> >>> >>> == Detailed description == >>> Since beginning of Fedora, gcc (and gcc-c++) are installed in every >>> buildroot. Times have changed and nowadays many of packages are not >>> written in C/C++, they are written in Python, Ruby, Node.js, Go, Rust, >>> OCaml, Perl and so on so they don't need to have C/C++ compiler. >>> Installing gcc and gcc-c++ takes time so if we remove it, we can >>> improve build times for many of the packages. >>> >>> >>> == Scope == >>> * Proposal owners: >>> Remove gcc, gcc-c++ from build group in Koji and from buildsys-build >>> group in comps. >>> >>> * Other developers: >>> Maintainers should follow guidelines and add BuildRequires: gcc if >>> they need it during build (this guideline exists for long time). >> I feel like this is something that many many many packages will not >> have present. For a long time it was acceptable to omit BuildRequires >> for stuff that was in the default build root, and while the C/C++ >> packaging guidelines do say you need BR: gcc, I expect most packagers >> have never noticed this changed. >> >> IOW, if we remove gcc/gcc-c++ from the build root, *before* fixing >> up packages we're going to create a huge pile of rebuild failures. >> >> Can we please do something here to identify which packages likely have >> missing BR: gcc and automatically fix up the specs, rather than creating >> 100's of failing packages and then waiting weeks in a broken state for >> maintainers to fix them up. > When I started this discussion 3 years ago, I tried to get some > estimates in subthread started by this message: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/AEYQSAGVPT64TNZ3PA52U4PLEPUOOKGV/ > Or may be this one? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/EMWYUIZL4QQBAPKEVRNYOFKUPWSW3F7G/ Just for the fun, I run the same queries for Rawhide: $ dnf repoquery --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide-source --arch src '*' | wc -l 20946 $ dnf repoquery --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide --source --whatrequires 'libc.so.6*' | sort -u | sed -r 's/(.*)-.*-.*/\1/' | uniq | wc -l 8559 40,86 % of packages is in C/C++. It looks the trend continues ... V. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx