Re: F28 Self Contained Change: Atomic, Cloud and Docker images for s390x

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On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:29 AM, Sinny Kumari <ksinny@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:56 PM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Daniel Walsh <dwalsh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On 01/30/2018 11:50 AM, Jan Kurik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Atomic, Cloud and Docker images for
>>>> s390x =
>>>>
>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Atomic_Cloud_and_Docker_images_for_s390x
>>>>
>>>> Change owner(s):
>>>> * Sinny Kumari <sinnykumari AT fedoraproject DOT org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This change is to bring s390x architecture closer to other Fedora
>>>> architectures by adding widely used Fedora variants. This includes
>>>> docker images, Atomic Host (iso, qcow2 and raw format) and regular
>>>> Cloud Images (qcow2 and raw format).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> == Detailed Description ==
>>>> We already ship Atomic, Cloud and Docker images on other 64-bit Fedora
>>>> supported architectures- aarch64, x86_64 and ppc64le. With Fedora 27,
>>>> s390x is part of primary koji build system. Currently, we only ship
>>>> Server and Everything variants for s390x. So, our next steps should be
>>>> to have missing Fedora variants on s390x architecture which users will
>>>> find useful. This brings in shipping Atomic, Cloud and Docker images
>>>> in Fedora for s390x as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> == Scope ==
>>>> * Proposal owners:
>>>> These are isolated changes which doesn't impact existing Fedora 28
>>>> release plan on s390x. To have these changes ready to ship in Fedora
>>>> 28, we mainly require s390x koji builders configured to run these
>>>> composes, changes in pungi configuration [
>>>> https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/496 ] to enable the
>>>> additional compose and fixing s390x specific issues encountered when
>>>> compose fails to run.
>>>>
>>>> * Other developers:
>>>> Changes in Fedora infrastructure configs/scripts will be required to
>>>> have s390x builders configured to run additional composes. Fedora
>>>> Infrastructure issue [
>>>> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/6659 ] has been filed to
>>>> keep track of required changes to be done.
>>>>
>>>> * Release engineering:
>>>> #Releng 7286: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7286
>>>>
>>>> * Policies and guidelines:
>>>> N/A (not a System Wide Change)
>>>>
>>>> * Trademark approval:
>>>> N/A (not needed for this Change)
>>>
>>>
>>> You mean OCI Images...
>>
>> Mostly likely, yes.
>>
>> Relatedly, has there been a change request to move the default
>> container runtime to cri-o or runc or rkt or anything other than
>> docker in Fedora Atomic?  If so, that will be neat and I'm sorry I
>> missed it.  If not, why not?
>
> As per discussion outcome in atomic-wg ticket [1], Fedora 28 Atomic Host will
> ship docker as default container runtime. Prior to this decision, a survey
> happened about docker usage for Atomic Host [2] which shows that there are still
> good number of people who want docker as default.
>
> Answer to the question on whether there will another default container runtime
> like cri-o [2] is still undecided. For now reason is having both cri-o and
> docker will increase size of base Atomic Host.

Awesome information, Sinny!  Thanks for pulling this together in such
a concise summary.  It helps others that don't follow Atomic closely
understand the plans there.

So Dan... OCI images for sure but in the context of Fedora users and
other deliverables, Docker images isn't really wrong.  Plus, I just
like giving you crap ;)

josh
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