Re: Security updates and batched pushes

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On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 08:06 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On 01/09/2018 02:09 PM, Tim Landscheidt wrote:
> > BTW, are there technical reasons why the metadata is updated
> > en bloc and not incrementally like for example delta RPMs,
> > or is it just that nobody bothered to implement something
> > like that yet for metadata?
> 
> There is no implementation that I know of. It's been talked about for
> many years, but not been implemented.

We talked a bit about using casync for delta metadata at Flock last
summer, and I even did a small proof of concept to see what kind of
savings we'd see, but there were a couple of issues that came up:

 * casync creates a large number of very small files (roughly 4k files
   for yesterday's metadata) that mirrors would need to sync
 * Users would need to download a significant portion of those files to
   delta against (anywhere from 0 to all of them, depending on how
   similar their metadata is)

Downloading any significant number of tiny files over http/1.x is
really, really slow as the downloads are serial.

On reflection, one idea that might fix both problems would be if casync
could concatenate the cacnk files into one large block (cablk,
perhaps), and have the caidx file contain the location of each cacnk in
the block file.  Using http ranges, you would then be able to download
just the parts of the file you wanted (though I have not actually
tested whether specifying a large list of http ranges will download
faster than serially downloading each individual file).

FWIW, casyncing Jan 4th's metadata over Dec 15th's downloads 9.6MB (in
just over 1k cacnk files), while downloading the same metadata directly
would total 16MB.  More frequent updates would be smaller, but I'm not
convinced the difference from an average updates push to another would
be less than 2MB.

Jonathan

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