Re: excess automated emails from Fedora

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On 12/04/2017 01:07 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've opened a bug report[1] about automatically generated emails from
> Fedora Fedmsg and other parts of Fedora infrastructure.
> 
> Maybe there are other components of Fedora where bug reports like this
> should be opened but that isn't completely clear to me.
> 
> I'm sending this email to the community to ask a few things:
> 
> - to see if other people have useful information to add to the bug report

I do, and have done so. :)

> - to see if anybody can suggest other components to file bug reports
> against, or help do so

Well, the idea of FMN was to try and put all the notifications in one
place, so likely if there are any other places they should be moved to FMN.
> 
> - to find out if there is existing policy on this issue, a search of the
> wiki didn't reveal anything obvious

Well, the policy is that when you are sponsored into the packager group
you get the default set of packager rules. You can remove them, disable
all notifications, add your own or whatever as you like. I don't think
opting in is a good move here as new packagers likely are the people who
need those notices the most.

I could definitely see the welcome to packager email note this and point
people to where they can adjust things.

> - to get any general feedback about how the Fedora community feels about
> use of email addresses.
> 
> Note that I'm not just writing this to complain about the issue, I've
> previously done work on tools to help people build dashboards of their
> issues and I've blogged about some of those, including how you can get
> Github issues in iCalendar[2], Nagios issues in iCalendar[3], Debian
> issues in iCalendar[4].  Bugzilla (used by Fedora, Mozilla and GNOME,
> for example) already has native iCalendar support.  Harsh Daftary did
> work on aggregating[5] things from these sources in a dashboard as a
> GSoC project.  Putting this all together, even using the Mozilla
> Calendar/Lightning plugin, you can easily merge issues from many places
> and see them in priority[2] order which is far more comfortable than
> being bombarded by emails and trying to work out which is most
> important, which is already fixed by somebody else, etc.

Perhaps you would like to write a FMN backend for this model? :)
(we have email and irc now, but adding a ical one should be definitely
possible I think).

Everyone is different... some people like email, some people like irc,
some people like syncing taskwarrior to their tasks, some people like
nothing and only want to run queries when they have time.

> 
> - can anybody comment on other tools like this that put the developers
> in control rather than bombarding our inboxes with things?

You can control things at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/

> - would anybody like to help contribute to things like this in future,
> for example, mentoring another GSoC project on the dashboard concept?

I'm no developer, but perhaps someone else would like to. You could ask
on the infrastructure list.

kevin

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