Hello, trying to reach broader audience and get some feedback, hopefully resolving the issue concerning Fedora Developer Portal[1]. Specifically its content- C# IDEs[1] (generated from its github source[2]). Changes requesting a recommendation of proprietary software on Fedora are postponed[3] from release. Full thread[4] is on our ML. Note that the FDP is aimed to help developers *on* Fedora, using tools not necessarily packaged *in* Fedora. And it's not a documentation[5]. [1] https://developer.fedoraproject.org/tech/languages/csharp/csharp-ide.html [2] https://github.com/developer-portal/content/blob/master/tech/languages/csharp/csharp-ide.md [3] https://github.com/developer-portal/developer.fedoraproject.org/commit/1006e1e58e1a07065484c2041b68cb6f307e27bf [4] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/developer-portal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/P4VUQHPIOYFNPW4XA5AB3MAQGP6TE25L/ [5] http://developer-portal.github.io/contributing/write-introduction.html Thanks for feedback! ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Radka Janekova" <radka.janek@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Pavel Valena" <pvalena@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "Justin W. Flory" <jflory7@xxxxxxxxx>, developer-portal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Brian Exelbierd" > <bexelbie@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 7:00:33 PM > Subject: [Developer-portal] Re: FDP release and statistics 10/2017: C# IDEs and Mono updates; Python, Docker and > Haskell fixes > > Since this thread didn't move anywhere I would appreciate being able to refer > people to the page again, with the original content. The current state is a > misleading lie. > > If anyone would like to discuss this further, I suggest raising a ticket or > complaint with Council, to determine or clarify what content should be on > the developer portal - it seems unclear. Until such decision is made, I am > strongly against anything being censored for any reason. Radko, like with any OpenSource project, your PR does not have to be merged and amendments can be made to your changes. Please be patient while we try to resolve this. Regards, Pavel > > Regards, > Radka > > Radka Janeková > .NET & OpenShift Engineer, Red Hat > radka.janek@xxxxxxxxxx > IRC: radka | Freenode: Rhea > > On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Pavel Valena < pvalena@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:40 AM, Neal Gompa < ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > > Fedora Developer Portal is showing how to use tools in Fedora to do > > > awesome > > > things. And to date, none of the JetBrains IDEs (even my favored PyCharm, > > > which is open source) are available in Fedora. PyCharm is not mentioned > > > in > > > the Fedora Developer Portal for Python for exactly that reason. Neither > > > is > > > IntelliJ IDEA for Java. Same goes for Android development using Eclipse > > > or > > > Android Studio, as neither the Android SDK nor the associated IDE/IDE > > > components are packaged in Fedora. <snip/> > I'd like to stress once more, that the advertised software ('mentioned') does > not have to be *in* Fedora. > Provided it works (enhances developers' experience) on Fedora, and is > reasonably packaged/distributed. F.e. 'copr', RPM Fusion, PyPI[1], etc.. > Although packaging the recommended SW into Fedora is preferred, it doesn't > necessarily mean it's a good recommendation for a developer. > > [1] > https://developer.fedoraproject.org/tech/languages/python/python-installation.html > > Regards, > Pavel _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx