> Also, it might be trash for you but for someone else it might be a very useful tool or even his or her favourite programme for a given task. So please, be respectful to others' preferences or needs.
Could you guys please stop catching words? Obviously nobody meant any insult by the choice of words[1] bloat or trash towards the software or it's creators or maintainers. Should you wish to discuss the topic then stay on the topic please. It is a whole lot of useless software (in other words also trash, bloat and unwanted software) to just about every user, with but a few tools they may like, except people trying to review KDE as a family of tools. Every regular user will choose their own tools for calendar, email, etc. Simple picture viewer/kpaint etc, should be included because they are essential part of a desktop system, however, calendar, address book, email client, are not.
Could you guys please stop catching words? Obviously nobody meant any insult by the choice of words[1] bloat or trash towards the software or it's creators or maintainers. Should you wish to discuss the topic then stay on the topic please. It is a whole lot of useless software (in other words also trash, bloat and unwanted software) to just about every user, with but a few tools they may like, except people trying to review KDE as a family of tools. Every regular user will choose their own tools for calendar, email, etc. Simple picture viewer/kpaint etc, should be included because they are essential part of a desktop system, however, calendar, address book, email client, are not.
Now that said, it was discussed that the spin is meant to be as a showoff of the KDE family. Is it? Or is it meant for the *actual user* who has preferences.
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[1] Choice of words - In our very diverse, multinational community, not many people are actually native English speakers. For me, trash is totally acceptable word, and I would have never imagined that someone would make *so much fuss* around it. The US contributors love to say that we non-US people have to be "mindful of other cultures." Here I ask you, to be mindful of my mixed culture, and stop insulting me or treating me like if I did something horrible by something as silly as not the best choice of words. Thank you.
Regards,
Radka
Radka Janeková
.NET & OpenShift Engineer, Red Hat
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On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Silvia Sánchez <bhkohane@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Also, it might be trash for you but for someone else it might be a very useful tool or even his or her favourite programme for a given task. So please, be respectful to others' preferences or needs.Cheers,Silvia2017-09-11 2:00 GMT+01:00 Globe Trotter <itsme_410@xxxxxxxxx>:______________________________Very good point. I think that the original poster meant "not needed" by him but it is good to be precise.I do not use KDE because of the bload that I consider to be KDE, and so have been amused by this thread. I guess the OP and his friends could create a KDE-Lite spin or try LXQT (which I also do not use but is based on the same toolkit and Plasma from what I understand).THanks!
From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 11:34:10PM +0200, Radka Janekova wrote:
> Yes, I've installed it and removed about a *gigabyte* of trash. I believe
> that most people will use maybe one or two tools out of that list.
Hey, let's please not call software in Fedora "trash", regardless of
personal opinion of it. The stuff you don't use may be written by one
of your collaborators here — and even if not, it was written by one of
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