Dear fellow Fedora developers! I was puzzled by this after upgrading from F25 to F26 on a headless machine with a pretty minimal set of packages installed (i.e. almost no libraries related to Xorg or mesa). The upgrade brought in an updated abrt package which grew a dependency on python-gobject/python3-gobject. That, in itself, wouldn't be so bad, but python-gobject pulls in cairo and over 20 other libraries related to graphical display. I couldn't find anything in abrt that would depend on cairo, so I filed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1499581 . I don't like to have unnecessary and unused libraries lying around. However, this may indicate a deeper issue in pygobject3 or any package depending on it. It seems that on June 30th, 2015, the non-cairo parts were split into -base subpackages, but my guess is that not every package that uses pygobject3 but not cairo switched to the new subpackage. This is on Fedora 26: $ dnf repoquery --whatrequires python-gobject|wc -l Last metadata expiration check: 0:15:47 ago on Mon 09 Oct 2017 01:32:28 CEST. 63 $ dnf repoquery --whatrequires python3-gobject|wc -l Last metadata expiration check: 0:15:53 ago on Mon 09 Oct 2017 01:32:28 CEST. 99 $ dnf repoquery --whatrequires python-gobject-base|wc -l Last metadata expiration check: 0:16:01 ago on Mon 09 Oct 2017 01:32:28 CEST. 34 $ dnf repoquery --whatrequires python3-gobject-base|wc -l Last metadata expiration check: 0:16:08 ago on Mon 09 Oct 2017 01:32:28 CEST. 30 I'd argue that it should've been the other way around. Cairo support should've been split off to a subpackage and any package that required it should've been updated. Now it's a mess. Even pygobject docs say that cairo integration is optional, (https://pygobject.readthedocs.io/en/latest/guide/cairo_integration.html and https://pygobject.readthedocs.io/en/latest/devguide/packaging.html) and doesn't even list cairo in Runtime dependencies section. Frankly, I don't understand why cairo support is forced upon every pygobject3 user. Unfortunately, the current layout of the package doesn't allow depending packages to say they depend on pygobject3 only (unless we can start depending on pythonNdist(foo) already) or pygobject3 cairo support explicitly in an easy way (the "main" package which carries _only_ cairo support doesn't indicate this in any way apart from the file list and its own dependency on cairo. So, should the remaining packages that don't need cairo integration in pygobject3 simply switch to requiring -base subpackage or should the pygobject3 package be changed instead? I lean towards the latter, but perhaps there's a very good reason for all of this which I'm missing. Regards, Dominik -- Fedora https://getfedora.org | RPMFusion http://rpmfusion.org There should be a science of discontent. People need hard times and oppression to develop psychic muscles. -- from "Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx