On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Petr Stodulka <pstodulk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 18.8.2017 14:18, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 08:10:16 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:43:28 +0200, Petr Stodulka wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> I found now that the setup rpm is removable from the system, >>>> >>>> Clarify, please. What exactly have you found out? Have you found an update >>>> case where one of the package updater tools removed it actually? >>>> >>>> $ rpm -q --whatrequires setup >>>> rpcbind-0.2.4-7.rc2.fc26.x86_64 >>>> shadow-utils-4.3.1-3.fc26.x86_64 >>>> > > # dnf remove setup > > I am not talking about update, I am talking about situation that you can break completely > your system by removing of packages, that should not be removable. The logic why someone > would want to remove such packages it is not relevant here. You shouldn't be able to do that. > That's the point. > >>>> Whatever you've done, you would need to remove more packages before >>>> you could remove "setup". >>>> >>>> In case a tool like "dnf" has done it, I'd like to see the details, >>>> particularly the packages DNF used to replace setup and shadow-utils. >>>> >>> >>> It doesn't replace it with anything, it just considers it okay to >>> remove from the system, because we don't have any protected packages >>> that depend on setup. >> >> That doesn't make sense [yet]. It cannot remove it without breaking >> existing dependencies. It would need to remove shadow-utils, too, for >> example. > > Obiously you are able to remove shadow-utils "without troubles" too. That's just point > that the list of protected packages should be bigger. IMHO, packages that are crucial > for basic run of the system shouldn't be removable. > Our basesystem package seems to be quite neglected. For comparison, here's Mageia's basesystem: http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/basesystem/current/SPECS/basesystem.spec?view=markup We should probably consider filling out the basesystem package more and making it so that it is a protected package. That package isn't supposed to get removed on a Fedora system anyway. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
