On Saturday, 12 August 2017 at 23:30, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 12:40:18PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > I have no particular affinity for Atlas. But if we're going to > > > replace it, is OpenBLAS a complete drop-in replacement for Atlas that > > > requires no or at least very minimal changes? In what ways is it better > > > or worse? > > > > Proper support for runtime CPU feature detection on x86 architectures > > (x86_64 and i686). ATLAS expects to be tuned to every single machine, and > > distro packages can only be built to the lowest common denominator. > > (Anything else can only be in atlas-* subpackages that have to be manually > > installed.) OpenBLAS can also do that, but it also has a mode (used in > > packaging) where it will check for the available vector instruction sets > > (MMX, SSE*, AVX*) and pick the highest one available on the machine that is > > implemented for the called function. E.g., it can use SSE3 and newer on > > x86_64 when available, without breaking the SSE2-only x86_64 baseline. > > (Please note that this is only supported on x86 at this time. For ARM, it is > > like ATLAS, you can only compile for the baseline.) This can make a big > > difference in distro packages. > > > > There might also be other performance benefits. OpenBLAS is derived from > > GotoBLAS (which was put under a BSD license when Prof. Goto left TACC in > > 2010, so that the community can continue development, which is exactly what > > OpenBLAS is doing). GotoBLAS has, since its proprietary times, had a > > reputation of being a really fast implementation. > > Sounds all good. Are source-level changes needed to dependent > packages and if so are they simple to make? Yes, you don't need to add -L%{_libdir}/atlas to LDFLAGS anymore and you link with -lopenblas. See scalapack, arpack or elpa packages for example. In fact, I had to switch elpa to openblas to match scalapack. Otherwise I got test failures. Regards, Dominik -- Fedora https://getfedora.org | RPMFusion http://rpmfusion.org There should be a science of discontent. People need hard times and oppression to develop psychic muscles. -- from "Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx