Re: BTRFS dropped by RedHat

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On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 15:08 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Adam Williamson
> <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 14:46 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski
> > > <przemek.klosowski@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs:
> > > > 
> > > > https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/7.4_Release_Notes/chap-Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-7.4_Release_Notes-Deprecated_Functionality.html
> > > 
> > > I see it as acknowledgment Btrfs is stable enough that it's
> > > nonsensical to keep on calling it a technology preview, and also not
> > > explicitly supporting it for paying customers. Red Hat doesn't have
> > > the developers to support it, so it quite literally has no choice but
> > > to deprecate it.
> > 
> > Well, no, you're getting cause and effect mixed up, there. RH doesn't
> > have btrfs developers on staff *because* RH, over time, has broadly
> > come to the conclusion that btrfs isn't the storage tech it wants to
> > roll with. It's not that RH can't support btrfs for paying customers
> > because it has no btrfs devs, it's more that RH has decided it doesn't
> > want to support btrfs for paying customers so it doesn't hire any btrfs
> > devs.
> 
> That's a rather stunning comment and now I want to know if that's true
> or if it's just your personal speculation.

It's my personal interpretation of what I've followed about RH's
general position on btrfs. It's not 'official' in any sense (I'm
obviously not in a position to say that, nor am I directly quoting or
paraphrasing anyone who *is*). And if anyone more directly involved in
RH storage tells you I'm wrong, I'm happy to defer to them. But I don't
see why you'd say it's "stunning", I mean, it's pretty much in line
with the observable facts (RH used to talk quite positively in public
about btrfs, and employed at least a couple of people to work on it,
who would continually propose it to become the Fedora default
filesystem in the next release; this stopped happening a while back and
now, at least AFAIK, we don't have anyone paid to work full-time on
btrfs, and RH doesn't talk about a lot in public any more either).
Again, all errors are my own.
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