On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 15:08 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Adam Williamson > <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 14:46 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski > > > <przemek.klosowski@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs: > > > > > > > > https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/7.4_Release_Notes/chap-Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-7.4_Release_Notes-Deprecated_Functionality.html > > > > > > I see it as acknowledgment Btrfs is stable enough that it's > > > nonsensical to keep on calling it a technology preview, and also not > > > explicitly supporting it for paying customers. Red Hat doesn't have > > > the developers to support it, so it quite literally has no choice but > > > to deprecate it. > > > > Well, no, you're getting cause and effect mixed up, there. RH doesn't > > have btrfs developers on staff *because* RH, over time, has broadly > > come to the conclusion that btrfs isn't the storage tech it wants to > > roll with. It's not that RH can't support btrfs for paying customers > > because it has no btrfs devs, it's more that RH has decided it doesn't > > want to support btrfs for paying customers so it doesn't hire any btrfs > > devs. > > That's a rather stunning comment and now I want to know if that's true > or if it's just your personal speculation. It's my personal interpretation of what I've followed about RH's general position on btrfs. It's not 'official' in any sense (I'm obviously not in a position to say that, nor am I directly quoting or paraphrasing anyone who *is*). And if anyone more directly involved in RH storage tells you I'm wrong, I'm happy to defer to them. But I don't see why you'd say it's "stunning", I mean, it's pretty much in line with the observable facts (RH used to talk quite positively in public about btrfs, and employed at least a couple of people to work on it, who would continually propose it to become the Fedora default filesystem in the next release; this stopped happening a while back and now, at least AFAIK, we don't have anyone paid to work full-time on btrfs, and RH doesn't talk about a lot in public any more either). Again, all errors are my own. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx